Good pant if you are looking for lightweight. As light as other competing pieces like the thunderspeed pant by marmot or the beta LT pant by arcteryx- but I think the face fabric on the patagonia are more durable and more resistant to being ripped by random items.

they stow easily in the corner of my pack and they are very light. I would suggest finding them on sale as they are overpriced in my opinion. Look at integral designs for best value.

Customer Service

bibler- great
western mountaineering-super helpful
marmot- pretty accommodating
patagonia-the best return policy

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